Can Craps Be Beaten

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Have you ever heard of the craps pro? I can honestly say that I have been playing this craps method for a year now and over the long run I have been winning 60% of my bets with the casino paying me odds on the place bets. I'm one of the crazies out here that believe that this works. I have tried many systems and spent thousands of dollars believing there must be a way to beat the casino over the long haul. Nothing worked until I purchased this method. I'm a true believer and my wallet shows it, or maybe hundreds of hours at the table is not enough time to prove it to be true I'll let you know how I do over the next year. If you haven't heard of this method than research it and prove me wrong.

Although I have tested a lot of systems, I don't need to test all of them to know they are all worthless. No system can ever pass the test of time. It is not unusual to win for a while with a system, but if you keep playing the odds will eventually catch up to you and you will fall behind.
For more information about the futility of betting systems, please see The Truth about Betting Systems.

Let me begin by saying that of all the gambling related sites, the Wizard of Odds is by far the best. My question has to do with a betting strategy for craps. My question has to do with what some people have termed variance. As you state in your Ten commandments, the house has an edge in the long term, but there are short term fluctuations.
A casino I played at had the 3,4,5 odds system where you were allowed 3x on the 4 and 10, 4x on the 5 and 9 and 5 x on the 6 and 8. I feel that with this 'system' of placing odds, you reduce the fluctuations (with respect to standard 5x odds on all numbers) in your bankroll, and change the distribution of net gain/loss per session, i.e. you would produce a sharper peak located slightly more to the loss side than with 5x odds. Is this so, and could you put some numbers to it?

That is known as 3-4-5X odds, and is now pretty common. The following table shows all the possible outcomes, for the pass and odds combined, with full odds.

Return Table with 3-4-5X Odds

EventPaysProbabilityReturn
Pass line win10.2222220.222222
Pass line loss-10.111111-0.111111
Point of 4 or 10 & win70.0555560.388889
Point of 4 or 10 & lose-40.111111-0.444444
Point of 5 or 9 & win70.0888890.622222
Point of 5 or 9 & lose-50.133333-0.666667
Point of 6 or 8 & win70.1262630.883838
Point of 6 or 8 & lose-60.151515-0.909091
Total1.000000-0.014141

The standard deviation per pass line bet is 4.915632.
As a moderate craps player who is of course interested in receiving every 'comp' possible, could you give advice on the best betting (craps) strategy. Tried to find it in your GREAT web site.

Unlike most gambling writers, I don't put much emphasis on betting strategies. Assuming the same game and bet, there is no one right or wrong strategy. They all behave differently in the short run, but in the long run you will give the house the same percentage of total money bet.

I like your site very much. It is very informative. Thanks for putting out your thoughts. I noticed a betting strategy for craps suggested at Crappers Delight called 'classic regression'. In it he suggests, placing a 6 and 8, after a point is established. Then taking it down after one of them is hit. He said there are 10 combined ways to make the 6 and 8, but only 6 combined ways to make the 7. It sounds logical, but I've seen where you are able to show, that what appears logical on the surface is not so bright once it is analyzed. What are your thoughts on this strategy and what would the true odds be, if you did take the bets down after one hit?

This is similar to a question I got last week. Yes, it is true that there are ten ways to roll a 6 or 8, and six ways to roll a 7. However, one must not look at the probabilities alone, but weight them against the payoffs. The place bet on the 6 and 8 pays 7 to 6 odds when fair odds would pay 6 to 5. By making six unit place bets on the 6 and 8, and taking the other down if one wins, the probability of winning 7 units is 62.5% and the probability of losing 12 units is 37.5%. If the player must cover both the 6 and 8, then the place bet is the way to go. This rate of return isn't bad but could be better. For the player who puts a priority on minimizing the overall house edge, the best strategy is to make combinations of pass, don't pass, come, and don't come bets, and always take the maximum allowable odds.

What is the better system, or which gives me the better chance to win on craps? On the come out roll, I bet $10 on the don’t and $10 on the do, and then when a point comes out I lay full odds against the number. Or is it better to just play the don’t pass, and then lay the odds. I think getting passed the come out roll will increase my chances of winning.

The better system is to bet on the don't pass only and take full odds. Yes, betting on both does increase you chances of winning on any one bet. However you are suffering a higher combined house edge by betting on both the pass and don't pass and it will cost you in the long run.

I played craps for the first time the other night and went from $70 to $700 with small bets on the pass odds and field bets. I then lost it all down to $6 because my bets were too large (by the dealers suggestion), and gained it back to $1000 after slowing down. For this being the first time it seems like a very easy game to win if you have patience, was it beginners luck?

Yes, it was luck. It helped that you stuck to the low house edge bets. However, next time, make the line bets with odds only, and don't bet the field, especially if it pays 2 to 1 only on both the 2 and 12.

In craps, could one gain an advantage over the house by making both a Pass and Don't Pass bet (one unit each) and then playing the Don't Pass odds? Although the occasional 12 would steal one unit here and there, it seems that the seven would have an advantage over the point. At triple odds one could take 3x on the 4&10, 2x on the 5&9 and 1x on the 6&8.

No combination of bets can give the player an advantage. In your example you would lose one unit for every 12 on the come out roll. You don't make up for it laying the odds. While you usually win laying the odds, you have to risk more. In the end, laying the odds has zero house edge.

I love to play craps and would like your opinion on a conventional method of play. Pass line and two come bets with full double odds or with one come bet? Does having three different bets working superior to two?

As long as you are backing up your pass and come bets with full odds, it doesn't make any difference how many come bets you make. However, it does reduce the overall house edge to keep the odds on your come bets working on the come out roll.

In craps, does the house edge change if you make a don't pass bet then remove it if the point is 6 or 8? What if you remove it if the point is 6,8,5,or 9?

You should never remove a don't pass bet after a point is made! Once a point is made of 6 or 8 the don't pass has equity of 9.09% of the bet amount, which you would be throwing away by taking the bet down. The equity of a don't pass bet on a point of 5 or 9 is 20%, and on a 4 or 10 is 33.33%.

I’d like your thoughts on this craps strategy. I think it’s a Patrick system for playing don’t pass. Bet one unit on both pass and don’t pass. Then lays odds on the don’t side. You can stop here or then make a don’t come bet. After the dc travels, take the odds off your don’t pass bet (if you don’t like to lay odds). So now you have a unit on the don’t come that pretty much got there with less risk. I know you can never get the advantage over the house, but this seems like a great way to play the don’t side. You eliminate the sevens on the come out roll. And only get hurt by the 12; or the 11 on your don’t come bet. P.s. Your site is the greatest.

Thanks for the compliment on my site. The best thing I can say about this system is that it composed of low house edge bets. Yes, a 12 will lose the pass bet and push the don’t pass on the come out roll, this is where the house edge is. By making the pass bet you are increasing the overall house edge. If you’re afraid losing you shouldn’t be playing at all. Never hedge your bets. So my advice is to stick to just the don’t pass and laying odds. Yes, you’ll lose some on the come out roll. However if you don’t lose on the come out roll the don’t pass bet will usually win.

I am a novice, just starting to play. My question concerns the 'Five Count Doey/Don’t' System. The way I understand the system:
  1. Wait until the shooter establishes a point.
  2. Play both come/don’t come (same amount). Until you have a maximum of four numbers
  3. After the shooter has rolled five times without rolling a 7, take odds on all your numbers on the front side.

The rationale: Limit your exposure until you find a 'qualified' (five rolls without a 7) shooter. Only betting the odds so there is no 'house edge'! Can you compare this system with just playing pass/come and taking the odds?

As I stated in the other craps strategy question you are only mixing another house edge bet into the game by betting on both the pass and don’t pass, or come and don’t come. It is also not going to help to wait until a shooter hits five points. The probability of making a point is the same for me and you as it is for somebody who just threw 100 points in a row. In other words, the past does not matter. As I stated to the person who asked the other question (whom I think may also be you) don’t make opposite bets, just stick to either the do or don’t side and always back up your bets with the odds.

The Kelly strategy for betting requires a positive edge to be effective. I play craps and I give the house less than a 1% edge. Once a week I get comps of $62. I gamble only 1 1/2 hours and my total betting doesn’t reach $3000. Theoretically I earn approximately $30 per session. Would the Kelly strategy be helpful to me?

Unless bankroll preservation is very important to you then Kelly betting won’t help. I would just flat bet. Nice strategy to milk the comp system.

The American Mensa Guide to Casino Gambling has the following 'anything but seven' combination of craps bets that shows a net win on any number except 7. Here's how much MENSA advises to bet in the 'Anything but 7' system:
  • 5- place $5
  • 6- place $6
  • 8- place $6
  • field- $5
  • total= $22

They claim the house edge is 1.136%. How is that possible if every individual bet made has a higher house edge?

Good question. To confirm their math I made the following table, based on a field bet paying 3 to 1 on a 12. The lower right cell does shows an expected loss of 25 cents over $22 bet. So the house edge is indeed .25/22 = 1.136%.

Mensa Anything but Seven Combo

NumberProbabilityFieldPlace 5Place 6Place 8WinReturn
20.027778100.0000000.0000000.000000100.277778
30.05555650.0000000.0000000.00000050.277778
40.08333350.0000000.0000000.00000050.416667
50.111111-570.0000000.00000020.222222
60.138889-50.00000070.00000020.277778
70.166667-5-5-6-6-22-3.666667
80.138889-50.0000000.000000720.277778
90.111111500.000000050.555556
100.08333350.0000000.0000000.00000050.416667
110.055556500.0000000.00000050.277778
120.027778150.0000000.0000000.000000150.416667
Total1-0.25

The reason the overall house edge appears to be less than the house edge of each individual bet is because the house edge on place bets is generally measured as expected player loss per bet resolved.
However, in this case the player is only keeping the place bets up for one roll. This significantly reduces the house edge on the place bets from 4.00% to 1.11% on the 5 and 9, and from 1.52% to 0.46% on the 6 and 8.
For you purists who think I am inconsistent in measuring the house edge on place bets as per bet resolved (or ignoring ties) then I invite you to visit my craps appendix 2 where all craps bets are measured per roll (including ties).

What is the best way to make money at craps consistently?

Craig from Los Angeles

No. I had to Google this to find out what this is. This appears to me to be an amusing urban legend about some young scientists who developed a winning craps system. The story is told at Quatloos. I would file this under other fictional stories that have become mistaken for fact, like Joshua’s missing day. As I have said hundreds of times, not only can betting systems not beat games like craps, they can’t even dent the house edge.

I have a question about a series of bets in craps. The strategy is called the 'Iron Cross.' It involves a bet on the 5, 6, 8, and the field. I read up on this, and found that this particular bet will pay on every roll that is not a 7. I was told that this gives you the lowest house edge. What are all the various odds and what-nots to go along with it?

If the player bets $5 on the field and 5, and $6 on the 6 and 8, then he will have a net win of $2 on the 5, 6, and 8, $10 on the 2, $15 on the 12, and $5 on the other field numbers, assuming that the 12 pays 3 to 1 on the field. The player will lose $22 on a 7. On a per roll basis, the player can expect to lose 25 cents compared to $22 in bets, for a house edge of 1.136%.

This begs the question, why is this lower than the individual house edge of each bet made? It’s not. The reason it seems that way is the result of comparing apples to oranges. The house edge of place bets is usually expressed as the expected loss per bet resolved. Looking at the individual bets on a per-roll basis, the house edge on the 5 is 1.11%, and on the 6 and 8 is 0.46%, according to my craps appendix 2. Comparing apples to apples, the house edge is a weighted average of the house edge on the field, 5, 6, and 8, on a per-roll basis, or (5/22)×2.778% + (5/22)×1.111% + (6/22)×0.463% + (6/22)×0.463% = 1.136%.

What is your opinion of the 5-Count strategy in craps?

For the benefit of other readers, the 5-Count is a method of slow-playing craps, as discussed in ’Golden Touch Dice Control Revolution’ by Frank Scoblete and Dominator. As the book states, it is a way of betting nothing on some rolls, reducing your expected loss on random shooters, while still getting the full comp value of table time.

Can Craps Be Beaten

The way the 5-Count works is you start counting rolls as soon as a new shooter throws any point number. When you get to five rolls after you start counting, the shooter is deemed worthy, and you start betting. However, you if the 5th roll is not a point number, it doesn’t count.

The book says you will only be betting 43% of the time, which I agree with. It is common for craps players to not bet, bet small, or bet the don’t pass on new shooters, as a way to qualify him. Once a shooter has made a point, or thrown lots of point numbers, the other players will gain confidence in him, and start betting with him. So, this kind of strategy seems natural. When casinos rate your average bet, they don’t lower the average for betting nothing some of the time. However, sometimes they will dock your time, especially if you are betting big.

An alternative strategy is to wait until the shooter makes a point. Under this strategy you will only be betting 40.6% of the time, less than the 43.5% with the 5-Count.

Imagine a craps player who takes maximum odds, say 10x, on his pass line and come bets reducing the house edge to 0.18%. He avoids other bets that give the house a bigger edge. He is an 'astute' right bettor in every way except this: he is determined to lose. Through bankroll management, and a determined effort to only leave the table a 'loser,' he hopes he can look back on his years of craps playing and say, 'I wagered $1 million at the craps table over the years and gave back $50,000 to the house; because of my ’skill,’ I left 5% at the table.' Is he deluding himself? Is he doomed, in spite of his efforts to leave the table a loser every time, to only give the house roughly 0.18% or $1800?

Yes! I’ve said many times that betting systems not only can’t beat a house edge game, they can’t even dent it. That includes denting it in the house’s favor. In other words, even if he tried to lose, he still only gives up 0.18% over the long-run, under your assumptions. Over a shorter time, he probably could do this, but not over 'years.' Some might argue that to deliberately lose, the player should do an anti-Martingale, where the player kept pressing his bets until he lost. However, a problem there is that a winning player will eventually reach the table maximum, which is rather low in craps. It just goes to show how futile betting systems are.

We all love craps and we would all love to win at craps every time we play.

While there is no sure-fire five-minute strategy that will teach you how to play craps and win every time, there are a bunch of strategy tips and smart bets that can improve your chances of winning.

In this article, I am going to run you through all the most common strategy tips to play craps. I will show you how to pick the right bets when you play and how to understand when the house edge is too high for you to stay in the game.

Throughout the article, you will find references to concepts like casino bankroll management, common casino mistakes, and the way odds in craps are calculated.

If any of these sounds foreign to you, remember to check out the articles I just linked before you sit at the craps table.

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Beating the C*ap Out of Craps

Despite what many beginners believe, craps is not the easiest game on the casino floor.

While it is true that your winnings are always one dice roll away, the game of craps comes with such a sophisticated set of bets that you won’t win unless you know how to play.

Electronic craps table

It's not so much down do using the right strategy to win at keno — it's about knowing how the game works.

Is There a Craps Strategy to Beat The Casino?

Rules are boring, I know. Unfortunately, there’s no way you can become a good craps player if you don’t know how the game works.

To help you get started, I set up a rules page for you to learn how to play craps.

Together with the game's rules, that article gives you some useful strategy tips on bankroll management and practical advice on how to limit your losses.

The key to getting more chances to win at craps is to learn what bets you can go for and what bets you need to avoid every time you play.

The only way you can do so is if you know the house edge connected to each one of the bets in the game.

How to Bet in Craps

If you want to be sure to get the best chances to win at craps, you need to pick the Pass/Don’t Pass or the Come/Don’t Come bets.

Picking any of the four bets indicated above reduces the house advantage to 1.40%. This is the best you can get in craps, especially if you combine it with laying or taking odds in order to reduce the percentage advantage even more.

Since choosing only the Pass / Don’t Pass and Come / Don’t Come bets would be awfully boring, I am going to give you some more craps strategy tips related to bets you can put your money on.

The other bets that give you the best odds of winning at craps are:

  • the Place 6
  • the Place 8
  • the Field 2
  • the Field 12

These four, combined with the ones I mentioned earlier, are the only bets worthy of your money. Anyone familiar with the basics of the craps optimal strategy know that all the other bets come with worse conditions and a higher house edge.

Keep in mind that when I say “higher house edge”, I mean that you stand little to no chance of winning when you pick one of the other bets.

Bets like the Hard-Way 4 and the Hard-Way 10 have an house edge of 11%. Why would you ever pick these ones instead of the much more favourable Pass / Don’t Pass line and Come / Don’t Come bets?

The next time you open a crap table at your favorite live casino online, have a look at what people bet on before you start playing.

Check out how many players don’t stick to these craps strategy tips I just gave you and count how many of those who try the top-paying bets end up in the red.

Pass and Come Bets

As you should know by now, the Pass / Don’t Pass and Come / Don’t Come bets are by far the best ones in the game.

The only way you will be respected by experienced players and dealers is if you show them you know this principle and you stick to these safe bets when you play craps.

The low house edge makes the Pass bet the most popular one in the game. With an house advantage of 1.41%, you always win unless the shooter hits a 2, 3, 2, or 7 after the point was hit.

The Come bet is equally popular and lets you win every time you or the shooter hit a 7 or 11 after the come bet is made. You lose the Come bet only when you or the shooter hit a 2,3,12.

Don’t Pass and Don’t Come Bets

If you don’t like to sit with the majority of players, you can also play “against” the others and become what is usually referred to as a Wrong Way Bettor.

Don’t let the name mislead you. Wrong bettors win whenever the other lose (and lose when the other players win) - which, in a gambling game like craps, is going to happen often.

Similarly, the Don’t Come bet is the one that you should go for after a point has been established in case you want to bet against the other players.

Whenever you opt for this bet, you win if the 3 or 2 is hit after the point has been made, and you tie if a 12 is rolled.

The Don’t Come bet pays even money and, like all the best bets in craps, has a house advantage of 1.41%.

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Payout and House Edge of All the Bets in Craps

While the best explained above are the ones the optimal strategy to win at craps suggests, the game features a lot of other bets with different house edges.

To help you understand the bets you should avoid and the ones you should go for, here’s a table with all the information you need to pick the right one.

Craps Bets

BetsPayoutHouse Edge
Pass1 to 11.41%
Come1 to 11.41%
Taking Odds on Pass/Come 6 or 86 to 50%
Taking Odds on Pass/Come 5 or 93 to 20%
Taking Odds on Pass/Come 4 or 102 to 10%
Don’t Pass1 to 11.36%
Don’t Come1 to 11.41%
Laying Odds on Don’t Pass/Don’t Come 6 and 85 to 60%
Laying Odds on Don’t Pass/Don’t Come 5 and 92 to 30%
Laying Odds on Don’t Pass/Don’t Come 4 and 101 to 20%
Place 4 or 109 to 56.67%
Place 5 or 97 to 54.00%
Place 6 or 87 to 61.52%
Big 6 and 81 to 19.09%
Field 3,4,9,10 or 111 to 15.56%
Field 2, 122 to 15.56%
Lay 6 and 819 to 254.00%
Lay 5 and 919 to 313.23%
Lay 4 and 1019 to 412.45%
Buy 6 and 823 to 214.76%
Buy 5 and 929 to 214.76%
Buy 4 and 1039 to 214.76%
Hardways 6 and 810 to 19.09%
Hardways 4 and 108 to 111.11%

Craps Proposition Bets

BetsPayoutHouse Edge
Any Craps (2,3 or 12)8 to 111.11%
Any Seven5 to 116.8%
Any Eleven16 to 111.11%
Ace Deuce (3)16 to 111.11%
Aces (2)30 to 113.9%
Boxcars (12)30 to 113.9%
Horn 3 or 1115 to 112.5%
Horn 2 or 1215 to 112.5%

Essential Strategy Tips for your Craps Games

When considering how much to bet to beat a casino at craps, you should also consider how much money is in your expendable bankroll.

If your bankroll is limited (and I am pretty sure it is), you should limits the amount you press on the lay or place odds unless you want to be pushed out of the game after a single bad roll.

If you come to the table with a big bankroll, you should take advantage of the best bet in the game and not be afraid of pressing the maximum amount allowed by the table’s rule.

6 And 8 Craps System

Each table comes with a different sets of rules and limits. Make sure you ask the dealer if all the info you need are not available at the table.

If you are looking to have more action at the table, you should at all costs stay away from most prop bets and stick to the Place and Lay bets.

Like in all gambling games, the key to beating a casino at craps is to walk away while you are ahead.

You need to know when to stop and take a break, Cash your winnings and leave the table. If you keep on playing, you put your winnings at risk - and you don’t want that.

Free Video Craps Strategy Lessons

Here’s a list of quick videos you should watch if you are serious about craps strategy and you want to take your game to the next level.

The 4-Minute Guide to Craps Strategy

How To Win At Craps Every Time

Besides being an hilarious video (and I tend to agree with Roman Praha on the redhead being high), this is video is pure gold.

It drives you through everything you need to know before you start and it explains the essentials of the game in less than four minutes.

Plus, if you liked Leisure Suit Larry you will love this one.

The Mathematics of Craps

In this video, former craps dealer at the Hilton Las Vegas, Jim Luciano drives you through the numbers of craps to explain how to calculate odds, payouts, and winning chances.

This video complements the section of this article dedicated to the bets and the odds.

The 10-Minute Full Craps Strategy Course

This video features everything you need to become a pro. Watch it once you are familiar with the numbers in the game and the use these craps strategy tips from the Players Network!

The Five-Count Strategy System

In the video below Gaming author, Frank Scoblete, describes the so-called Five-Count System, an alternative craps strategy you can read on hit book Beat the Craps Out of the Casinos

Can Craps Be Beaten

The five-count system begins when a shooter rolls a point number of 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, or 10. Once any of these numbers is rolled, the next roll is the two-count. Assuming there is a third roll, here is where you would start betting with a come bet.

If the roll continues, it is considered to be the four-count where you would place another come bet. Once it reaches a five-count, here is where you would start to place odds on your come bets and also make your third come bet.

Can You Beat Craps

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